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Changing the Axis of a Model

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Hi guys, this is my first post, and I am glod to be here. I have searched for this, but Im just getting used to the forum interface and not sure If I am searching right.

 

I am wondering if it is possible to switch axes in a model. I am using Parametric 2.0 Student Edition to create files for 3d printing. I created two simple files while learning to use creo, and I realized that I created the models with the z axis  in the wrong direction causing the model to sit improperly in my slicer program.

 

I can easily recreate these 2 models, but It would be great to also know if this is possible, and how to do it for future references.

 

Best Regards


Re: Changing the Axis of a Model

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Hi James.

As with most things Creo (was ProE) the answer is sort of.

 

Did you make your model with a coordinate system or default datum planes in it?

With either of these you can make an additional coordinate system relative to the first coordinate system or the datum planes and you can select which axis is called what and which way it is pointing at that time.  Then call up this added coordinate system in your slicer program.

You can add a coordinate system just from orthogonal geometry too.

 

If you can only reference your base coordinate system then I am afraid you will have to recreate your geometry but I doubt that is the case.

 

Hope this helps.

Regards. Brent

Re: Changing the Axis of a Model

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Hi Brent, Thank you for taking the time.

 

I am new to Parametric, however I am sure I simply selected "front" on the left pane and selected "sketch" in order to start building the part using lines, then revolve then mirror.

 

It is a linear bearing I created. I didnt know it at the time but the orientation matters when building from what I can tell, and this bearing has the z axis pointing to the side of the bearing vs parralel to the center shaft opening.

 

Is there a guide or a detailed way to turn the x axis into the z axis?

 

Attached is a pic of the way it is now.

 

ChangeAxis.jpg

Re: Changing the Axis of a Model

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I am not sure what your slicer program is.  In general, orientation of Creo parts doesn't matter since you can orient them any way you want in the assembly.  When you export a file you often have the option to assign a different coordinate system to the export so you can orient the part at that point.

 

If you want to reconstruct the part, you can choose a different sketch plane for each feature.  This will be some extra work but it can be done.

 

Last but not least, you can assemble the part into an assembly and orient the part with the correct Z in the assembly.

 

Again, it depends on what you are doing in how you want to change this part.

Re: Changing the Axis of a Model

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Oh Those were both perfect. Just did this in an assembly. Once the part was imported, I just used coincident to select the front face to the bearing and Front plane. Turned it just right. Here is a pic.

 

Assm_Change.jpg

 

Also, it worked in just the part file, by assigning and newly created coordinate system as you suggested. Here is a pic.

 

Part_Change.jpg

 

Thanks for the help guys.

Re: Where is the command "Audit Trail" at Creo 1.0?

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Thanks - just Googled to find this answer!

 

This is where the Command Search function breaks down.  If I search for Audit Trail I get no results - because I'm supposed to know that it's now called File History.

 

That's even less helpful than the "Commands Not In The Ribbon" result (e.g. Mapkeys)... at least with that you can select the command directly from the search results.

 

Is there a WF to Creo Menu Mapper, like they produced for 2001 to Wildfire?

Re: Creo vs. Solidworks vs. Inventor

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Lately, my system has been running like garbage, but I'm sure it's a "Windburn" issue as it crashes when I try and do any check in's etc.  I can count on it crashing at least 2-4 times a day.  Not happy at all.  Pro/E was by far the most stable on the Unix box I had ('96-'98), and has progressively gotten worse over the years.  windburn is a certifyable nightmare.  whoever thought it was a good idea to run a vaulting system over the LEAST stable platform in the world, the internet, should be tarred and feathered.

 

Yes, the Menu Manager might have been a little dificult for some, but it was totally consistent and made sense.  The WF GUI does not.  the "lead vs. follow" mentality is absurd, you never know what to do first as it varies from command to command.  The old MM was logical, and all the same.  Creation commands went here, modification commands went there.  I will say the WF interface is a lot better than the nightmare that is the creo interface......

Re: Changing the Axis of a Model

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You are welcome...  And thank you for detailing the process


Re: Updating Parameter - Confirm window pop up

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Both the instances that have the pop up window and those that don't are models that are part of a differenct family tables. I didn't know if the parameters being locked had anything to do with this or not.

Re: Ole Object

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Use a BMP instead.  The OLE engine is flaky in Creo.  I can have a BMP show perfectly until I hit a magic size and poof; gone.  In modeling mode, I have had files corrupted.  Please report this to PTC customer support by logging a case.

Re: Updating Parameter - Confirm window pop up

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Sorry Andrew, but all parameters are defined. This happens when I go to modify a parameter.

 

When I do specials at this company, the revision level may go from F from the origianl to A for the special, the person who modeled is goes from one of two previous people to myself, and so on.

 

This happens when I double click on the cell in order to edit the value. Sometimes it pops up the confirmation window which either requires me to middle mouse button to select it, or to actually scroll over and click on confirm. Other times it pops up the box that I can directly enter text into. The problem arises from when I am flying through specials, sometimes is acts one way and sometimes the other. I am trying to find out why there is this behavior so that it can be constitent and I don't stumble on doing it one way when it's the other. It just slows me down to much.

 

Thanks, Dale

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See if you can get a perfect six sigma on every level!   http://ptc.co/jtwHR 

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Re: the best way to assemble in CREO2

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hi,

 

My answer to all 3 is: mapkey, mapkey, mapkey.

 

There is an icon in dashboard to turn off 3D dragger, but no config.pro option to turn it off permanently. So you can set up a mapkey and press it everytime when the dragger bothers you.

 

Same with the coincident constrait. I'm doing this using a mapkey.

 

For the third point I've got a question. I always thought that ctrl+c (copy to clipboard) can't be used inside a mapkey. How did you overcome that one?

Can the sketcher font default be changed?

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Whenever we are creating a sketch for a cavity id for example, the default font for the text in the sketcher tool is font3d, and i would like to change it to just font.  We only need a single line sketch of the numbers or letter for engraving.  Anyone have any ideas on how you change that default?


Re: the best way to assemble in CREO2

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Thanks for your answers!

I overcome the "copy name" problem by creating a mapkey which does the following:

first create a log-file which contains the name of the current part in the working directory.

Then a batch file with DOS script copies this name to memory and then the log-file is deleted.

 

I also use this method to open drawing files from asm/parts with the same name automatically

and also to quickly add part-instances to a drawing file.

 

Im sure you can do this even more efficient with Pro/Toolkit but I'm not familiar with that nor do I understand why PTC does not just program these mapkeys themselves.

 

 

If you're interested I can post the code for the "copy file name" mapkey.

Re: the best way to assemble in CREO2

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I see a view Ideas in your post.  I suppose the only other enhancement that may be useful is the component interface option.

 

Assembling has never been fun in Pro|E.  I like the idea of remembering the last series of mating conditions used; having the part pop up on the screen where you are zoomed rather than 0,0,0; allowing several of the same parts to be inserted at the same time to sort them out after the dropping them... and mixing them up a bit so they don't all lay on top of each other... but I do like that it remembers the last component placed.  I also like the iconography (preview) of the part files.  Not always clear but a feature I do find useful.

 

Isn't there a way to automatically assembly a lot of parts through a script of some sort?  I'd love to just build a BOM and let it drop a bucket full of parts in the assembly to be mated after the fact.

Re: Creo 2.0 -How to create a drawing template(borders)??!!

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This is my procedure for creating new formats in Creo:

-New, Format (give it a meaningful name & make sure you have a shared directory prepared, for the sake of having some hard numbers I'll describe a b-size, 11"x17") I try to have the size in the name somewhere, metric or std.

-Sketch, Line (sketch a rectangle .5" inside the drawing size, in this case from 0.5,0.5 to 16.5,10.5 (landscape)). I'll also sketch 1/4" "divider" lines at the 1/4 distance of each border line, e.g. 1/4, 1/2 & 3/4.

¡That's your basic border!

To create title blocks where parameters populate you need to create tables. Using an existing printed drawing I'll make logical divisions so the tables are easier to define & handle. Figure about 5 individual tables, e.g.: legal, tolerance, title, company, drawing details; whatever makes sense to you (at this time). Also notice dividing lines & alignment of text within individual tables; this will dictate the number of columns your starting table will need. You'll Merge & Blank lines to get the table to look proper in the end.

Typically the title or drawing details is the most difficult table so I'll cover that then the others will use only parts of what was already done. I'll use my companies format as an example, you have to modify to suit your company's needs.

Our title has 6 rows of texts (customer, 2 lines for description & 3 other lines for drawing info). The columns are where you need to calculate. Our customer & descriptions span the entire table so all the cells in those rows will be merged.

Next 2 rows from left to right are: "scale" with the drawing scale underneath; "sheet" # "of" # , over "units:" units; "dwg. file" file_name. "scale" would be one column. "sheet" # "of" # is 4 columns (sheet is one, # is one, of is one & the other # is one). "dwg. file" is one column & file_name is the last column. A total of 7 columns.

The last row is "do not scale", one column; "created by", one column; drawn_by, one column; "date", one column; todays_date, one column. A total of 5 columns.

This doesn't mean you are making a 6 row, 7 column table! You need to look & decide if you want your formating alignments between rows to match. In my case I added 2 more columns as drawn_by, "date:" & todays_date did not align with text from the rows above; so I created a 6 row, 10 column table.

(This column procedure can also apply to rows depending on horizontal alignments)

Now merge cells as dictated by text alignments not line visibility, e.g. merge all cells in the customer row but do not merge any of the cells in the "sheet" # "of" #  although there are no lines there!

Type in your desired text. Any variable text needs to be entered as a parameter! &todays_date, &current_sheet, etc are internal parameters. &customer, &description, etc are user-defined parameters and need to be added to the model (either in start_part, mapkey or memory). Do not base alignments on parametric text.

Next select the whole table (usually several RMB clicks) so Line Display is "selectable" & Blank lines as desired.

Save the table in your format directory & correctly place the table you just defined in your format. I like to select the whole table, RMB the appropriate corner then Move Special so the table is exactly placed.

Another item to consider is the height of each table as some tables stack and others go the full height so I will modify row height so the overall heights & the stacked heights match exactly.

Save your format & you now have your first format ready to use.

Re: Can the sketcher font default be changed?

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I don't think that option exists.  That would be a nice enhancement however.  Please feel free to add this to the Ideas section.  Default_3d_sketcher_font <fontname>   Afer all, they have sketcher_default_font_kerning... why not the rest of the the parameters?

Creo 2.0 printing Issues

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I am using Creo View Lite 2.0 64 bit M030 on a Dell Optiplex 7010(Windows 7 64 bit to view a drawing files(*.plt extension).  I am able to view the file just fine.  However, when I go to print the file, nothing prints.  It appears Creo or Windows ignores my request to print. However I am able to print via everything else (word, excel, IE, ).  I have simulated the issue on a another Dell Optilplex 7010 and I get the same results. I am trying to print to a HP LaserJet M4345 or an HP  LaserJet 4100N. Any ideas? 

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